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Day 68, probably fuck o'clock at night

[personal profile] puzzlekeeper 2018-12-09 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Intensity just gets the following message, with no other commentary attached whatsoever. ]

  • Invoking faith to contact Heaven summoned “The Messenger”
          + A young woman; appears barefoot, dressed in white, with old burns on her legs
          + “I am the voice of God. I come to deliver truth, knowledge, and to bestow the will of Heaven.”
  • Audience perception passively controls our existence in Hell
  • “Belief begets truth” - if the audience believes we are all the same, then that will become reality, and we’ll fade away
          + We must remain distinct from one another by adhering to our unit’s image
          + Even one or two outliers can result in the events we just witnessed
  • The audience requires us to be more divided - more conflict - more distinction
  • The audience isn’t just the damned. It’s “beings of all manner of influence”
  • Not even Heaven is sure how many factions are involved / how far this show reaches
  • “Take my hands, and have faith, and I will give unto you the power to bring your loved ones salvation”
  • Heaven did not demand any price
  • Neither Heaven or Hell benefit from us becoming damned
          + It seems Heaven’s help was offered at no price for this reason
          + Asking if there was no price because “faith” is considered payment enough - did not confirm/deny
  • Hell is based on mind, belief, and power
  • Demon souls can exist individually within Hell, but human souls cannot - only being tied to our “image” allows our identities to exist without being wiped away
          + The monochrome effect is what happens to souls who enter Hell without this protection
  • Games MUST be taken seriously - throwing is not an option
  • Heaven bestows several powers:
          + The ability to nullify anyone else’s powers
          + Full access to your unit’s powers, even unpurchased abilities
          + The ability to create any illusion for a single target; impact on the target is real even if the illusion is fake
          + Promote idols to hosts
  • Heaven’s blessing alters minds, hearts, morals
  • Q: What does Heaven wish for us?
          + A: To return to God's loving embrace, of your own free will.
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    [personal profile] puzzlekeeper 2018-12-09 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
    King: 1) We selected one of the churches and went to pray for guidance upon the altar. Adherence to Christian rituals doesn't seem to matter; we prayed in the manner that was familiar to us, and she appeared.
    King: 2) If we hope to defeat the Producers, we need you. Alive, preferably.
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    [personal profile] puzzlekeeper 2018-12-09 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
    King: Hiryuu and I are the ones that went to the church.
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    [personal profile] puzzlekeeper 2018-12-09 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
    [ .................................... intensity ]

    King: I think it's possible, yes.

    Day 68, also probably really fucking late at night

    [personal profile] criminaljustice 2018-12-09 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
    this is your reminder about truth potions
    also, Asmodeus details:
    - traditional summonings with sigils and chants do nothing. asshole prefers for you to really mean it when you call for him. that's it
    - he doesn't come to you, you go to him
    - "So make the monochroming virus stop!" "If it was a virus, it'd be an easy fix."
    - has ability where anything done to him is turned back onto you. Bad End was equipped temporarily with this ability while under the influence. nearly stabbed myself in the face trying to stab his
    - "Yes, I want it fixed." "Unfortunate, because if you want it fixed, you'll have to do it. A Prince's violence is no surprise. Never going to win them back that way."
    - in answer to saying there's a catch: "Sure, there's more to it. I want a good set of demons at the end of this shit, not more of the goddamned Damned."
    - when making the offer, stated that the effects were not permanent (skeptical here because. demon)

    at this point, brainwashing probably most likely happened. still remembered the q&a session:
    - confirmed Mukuro's Heaven vs Hell matches with Asmodeus's

    Q: Why're you in such a rush to get more demons, then? Conquering Hell?
    A: Surprisingly off the mark. Strike One.

    Q: Dare I ask what happens at strike three?
    A: I'd get sent back. "You're no good to me here."

    Q: Are you just lonely?
    A: none given, seemed amused and explained the following about the Damned: The Damned are a waste. That's what this hole games between us (assuming Asmodeus and Pythia?) is based on. I ought to be able to guess why a whole faction would pose as working for a dead god. If the rest of hell thinks humans are beneath their notice and attention, that's all the more for Asmodeus's taking.

    Q: Are you trying to see if the Damned can be reverse-engineered into humans and then made into demons? (this would be a pretty quick way to build an army...)
    A: Doing that is simple, just takes time and patience and is one at a time. Not a good model for business.

    Q: So this whole arrangement isn't necessarily your design, who designed it?
    A: Strike Two

    Q: Is there an option to get out of here without signing up with a demon?
    A: same old thing re: choose Pythia's lies or choose to become a demon under Asmodeus and he'll grant you your heart's desire, blah blah. made a point to say the Liar's false heaven had nothing for us

    Q: Were we all Damned when we were brought here? Or were we just taken?
    A: mixed bag. Some of us he states were very much dead.

    Q: Are you likely to answer another call like this or was this not entertaining enough (he made a comment about entertainment early on and i was feeling snarky i guess)? If you do answer, are you expecting something?
    A: "Let's call them hopes, expectations are a shade too far." In the future, people will have to pander. Can't count on another crisis with a whole batch of us on the line.

    Q: Asked details about "pandering", since his area is Revengers of Wickedness, was he expecting an action? A tribute? Body parts? Death?
    A: "Vengeance victorious, these are the glorious days." he prefers we MEAN it

    Q: Asked if there was any commonalities between who was brought into this group
    A: Mostly by chance. The game works best if there's an illusion of fairness in the playing field. If they need specific reps, they can hand-pick those. We'll notice those.

    Q: Doubles situation--Mars and I aren't the same as other doubles, had to ask about it and whether it was coincidence.
    A: If it's not, "Pythia chose a trivial thing to break terms on."

    Q: Do you even keep track of the idols? (wanted to know how much demon princes keep track of idols in general because it didn't seem likely they did since we're just commodities)
    A: For most, that'd be correct. "But once you catch my eye, the trick isn't keeping it."

    Q: Has someone caught his eye?
    A: "You've seen him around."

    Q: Is there an advantage to catching your eye prior to graduation?
    A: "I'm willing to make it worth the while."

    Q: Asked for method of contact
    A: rejected

    Q: Any final words of wisdom?
    A: Strike Three

    And then I was booted back through a door that came out of nowhere.

    [personal profile] criminaljustice 2018-12-09 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
    Boss: i think he means more "they're a waste for my intended purposes/goals"
    Boss: not that that's very reassuring or anything
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    [personal profile] puzzlekeeper 2018-12-09 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
    King: That's probably for the best for the time being.

    [personal profile] criminaljustice 2018-12-09 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
    Boss: he said God is dead
    Boss: there is no Heaven because God is dead
    Boss: maybe instead of ruling Hell, he plans to rule Heaven
    Boss: just spitballing with that
    Boss: but also it's Hell
    Boss: why the hell WOULDN'T it be full of obnoxiously complicated demon hierarchies?


    [...]

    Boss: personal experience talking
    Boss: but he probably loses minions because his area requires a lot of dark passions in the heart
    Boss: anger, fury, rage, vengeance most profound, etc
    Boss: he probably loses a number of them because most of them start off severely wanting to kill him first and foremost
    Edited 2018-12-09 23:59 (UTC)

    [personal profile] criminaljustice 2018-12-10 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
    Boss: no idea one way or the other
    Boss: the thing Asmodeus seems to play in opposition to Pythia
    Boss: is why lie when the truth is likely terrible enough to draw you to his side?
    Boss: but also why nothing he says can really be trusted
    Boss: because. demon.
    Boss: but i do think Mukuro is a stockholm case for sure

    [personal profile] criminaljustice 2018-12-10 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
    Boss: could be why she did it in the first place?
    Boss: there's always the possibility that she was once one of Asmodeus's
    Boss: and the "minions being stolen" is actually literal
    Boss: or it could be Exael's vying for Pythia's seat


    [...]

    Boss: one detail i did leave out, in case you want to leave it out of the public-facing doc
    Boss: after i tried to stab him, he had me pinned against the wall
    Boss: he said: "Proactive. Angry, a few weeks more and maybe you would be on the mark. However, we don't have a few weeks, so you'll have to do."
    Boss: so you're not wrong about me not having enough hate

    [personal profile] criminaljustice 2018-12-10 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
    Boss: very funny
    Boss: and why the hell would we take anything from that side at face value?

    [personal profile] criminaljustice 2018-12-10 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
    Boss: in this case
    Boss: the consistent inconsistencies
    Boss: we're pretty damn sure at this point that their heaven talk is bunk
    Boss: or else why would HSS be made to enforce the things the way Bad End was?
    Boss: their approach was different, but it was pretty much the same deal
    Boss: though i guess someone could argue Heaven isn't so different from Hell